Hi Deanna
Stop writing dom... it's 3.34 am now and......ZZZzzzzZZz ooh! ...you gotta
get some shut eye or they will go wrotten or pop out of your head boy!.
Midas Gold wrote:
> Dominic Anfiteatro wrote:
>
> > Hi Deanna (and daughter Jeanne... have I got that right?)
>
> Nope, sorry. I was saying "Hi Mom" to *Jeanne's* mom 'cuz Jeanne's
> mom said "Hi" to our list. I guess I should have said "Hi, Jeanne's
> mom," 'stead of "Hi, mom" to avoid confusing anybody... but that would
> have sounded too much like "hygiene's mom"... Oh, never mind. ;-)
>
Haaa hahahah .... breath.... hehAHhehe.... you got me with that shot to the
happy glands
>
> > I just wanted to add that you could decrease the PS of kefir by
> > using large milk ratios of 1 :50 grains to milk.
>
> OK, but that would mean more *lactose*... and with fewer critters
> (proportionately) to *convert* that lactose, well, I dunno... We
> SCDers aren't too fond of DIsaccharides, either. ;-)
Increase the temp. to 22 - 25 deg. C (what's that in F again?) will help the
Lb to work harder. Also as mentioned already in previous posts, straining
out the grains after 24 hours then letting the microbes in the (now)
inoculated milk to ferment for a (given?) length of time should do the trick
to remove the rest of the lactose.
i wish I had more data on this. I realy need to get to the uni to get some
interest in this area. This also includes trying to find out the actual PS
thing. One book mentions that the kefiran is insoluble while others mention
it to be soluble.(misprint in the former I would think and on my web page
too...oops)
You got gell-forming and non gell- forming. *the slimmy stuff is the gell
forming PS while the actual grain is the non soluble PS (this is my
understanding any way).
If you cut open a pocket shaped grain (not the flat ones, becasue there are
two diferent types among the grains) the grain oozzes this gell-like PS
(kefiran!!) (ding) ha! another idea .. I wonder if you eliminate the pocket
- like grains, would it reduce the PS in the kefir?
>
>
>
> > Also remember how I mentioned that I used just brown rice as part of
> > a regime to control UC ?
>
> Yup, sure I do. 'Specially because your experience contrasts so
> sharply with the SCD way of thinking, in which rice is Public Enemy #
> 1 (well maybe 2 or 3...)
>
> > I just wanted to mention that when one eats nothing but brown rice,
> > the rice doesn't break down as it would when eating rice with other
> > foods (this applies to most westerners who do not eat BROWN rice as
> > a staple) . I believe that it's this factor that helps to create a
> > balance between the microbes in the intestinal microflora.
>
> Interesting. Got any literature on that to share?
No sorry not actual lit. But it could be a job for the abled? I will
volentere to be a guenea pig for the count any time .. hehehhe! i am due for
a 14 day rice fast. If all goes well, in a few months. This time I will work
with someone here to do microbe counts and calssifications etc... before and
after the fast...!
>
>
> > I just wanted to clarify that because of this the starch free (or carb
> > free) diet that you mention
>
> ...Di- and polysaccharide-free... monosaccharides are A-OK.
>
> > and the brown rice diet can not be compared to be the same. (I may
> > not be expressing my idea well here). In other words because the
> > starch in the rice is largely intact, then the compounds that the
> > Dr. seem to think causes problems (digestion of starches etc.) may
> > not be present when eating nothing but brown rice for a short period
> > of time (7 days) ?
>
> Well, the SCD is obviously operating from a different scientific
> mindset. Though I'd be happy to read whatever material you have on
> this "brown rice, brown rice, and nothing but the brown rice" thing of
> yours and try to sort it all out.
>
I would think there is some lit on it because it's been around for many
years. Geroge Oshowa who startedthe macrobiotic thing recommended it. others
flowed throught his works but I am not sure if any cientifc work was caried
out on it. possbily in Japan, but they eat rice as a staple and would think
that this would differ to a westerner?
>
> But the main thing is, "Hey, as long as it WORKS!!!" :-)
And what works for one may not necessary work for another... :)
e.g. I gave up smoking cigaretes last year, then that week I contracted UC.
My sister 5 years earlier went throught the exact thing after she gave up
smoking (exactly!!). Cortisone worked for her but not for me. But brown rice
with intestinal inplants of herbs, kefiraride etc. did!
That' the whole reason I tried cortisone because I thought that "same
curcumstances, sister (geneticly close) etc. but nup!
> Deanna
Peace and respect
--Dominic N A
My Kefir home pages:
http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html
Making Kefir:
http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html
Kefir faq's:
http://www.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefir-faq.html
Good night
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